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Time Crash is fun like woah. Beard joke made my day. And I love the line about his younger incarnations emphasizing their age and gravity. But it isn't canon. Maybe it's a close AU, but it's probably not canon.

1) We saw that sequence of events at the end of series 3, and that didn't happen.

2) If Ten remembers these events from being Five, he'd know of the Master's continued existence and about him having married, both of which visibly shocked Ten.

3) If these events generate a previous awareness in Five, which alters his ensuing behavior, then the events of Ten's life dependent on the Master would have changed due to his new awareness.

4) The emotional tone of the sequence is off for having just finished dealing with Martha in the previous scene. Even for Ten, whose ability to hide pain is like my mom's ability to hide clothes she thinks make me look fat, the blase treatment of the previous year seems off,

5) If I take it that this did happen, and the loop closed, did it ever happen for either of them?


6) I'm not taking 'wibbly-wobbly' as an answer to the above logistical problems, unless it's accompanied by a working explanation as to these concerns.


FYI, I have had far too much to drink this evening.

And I watched a production of "I Am My Own Wife" tonight. Quite good. Apparently the Stasi (East German secret police) kept scent files for 6 million of their citizens (out of 16 million total citizens). They would smear a bit of cloth, secretly, on the suspect to capture the scent and store them individually. They trained a fleet of dogs for the eventuality of searching out these dissidents when necessary. The logistics of this boggle me. How do you isolate and preserve these scents, preventing their inter-bleeding? How do you collect and store so many samples? Also it's creepy.

Date: 2007-11-18 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-duster.livejournal.com
*Cough* it's written "Stasi." It's the nickname for Ministerium fuer STAatsSIcherheit. Sorry; I couldn't help it.

Your tracking of the Doctor's emotional states boggles me.

Date: 2007-11-18 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-los.livejournal.com
Omg you're right, I just heard it said and thought it must relate somehow to the word for 'street' b/c of how he was pronouncing it. And why wouldn't there be an emotional progression between scenes supposedly occuring directly after each other? I thought the playwright here'd be all over that. :p

Date: 2007-11-18 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-duster.livejournal.com
Oooooohhhh, going for my metaphorical writing balls. That's just not cool.
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_coherent/
1) Diggin' the new layout.
1a) How the hell dyou get the taglist on the side? D'you have to put it in manually? Or am I just LJ-stupid?
1aa) Your tags in a list are hilarious

2) Also, what are you+Danny (or just you if he's busy with familystuffs) doing tomorrow? I'll probably call but you know me and my phone weirdness.
From: [identity profile] x-los.livejournal.com
Thanks! My tag organized this way when I picked the layout, so as far as I know its a layout dependent function, and seemingly it accompanies the layout at random? I need to prune those tags... Um, Monday we're gonna go to like, the mall and Canada, and our Tuesday plans are like, non-existant. Danny doesn't really fancy driving to East Lansing (though he'd happily give you ride home), are you going to be visiting your family in Detroit at any point? We should rock Canada. It needs us.
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_coherent/
Hrm. Shit, Tuesday is also the day my cousin doesn't have school and today Mum took the car (otherwise I'd drive to Detroit and meet you guys or sommat). Pfah. Well, meh, I'll still call sometime to see what's going down.
From: [identity profile] x-los.livejournal.com
Well, it doesn't have to be Tuesday. Our plans are really flexible. Any time you can get to Detroit would be cool.

Date: 2007-11-19 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_coherent/
I'ma see if I can steal the car on Wednesday then.

Date: 2007-11-19 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draegonhawke.livejournal.com
Maybe the time crash created a pocket timeline with its own continuity, so 10 remembered those events within the time pocket but had no access to the memories outside of it?

Date: 2007-11-19 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-los.livejournal.com
I guess it could have created a pocket time line, but 10 is normally more direct about addressing things he remembers having happened than sitting around surprised 5 doesn't recognize him for a while rather than remembering his own lack of recognition.

Additionally, a la 3 Doctors and 5 Doctors, the Doctor always recognizes himself as himself almost immediately. Why doesn't Five recognize Ten? Molly J pointed out it may be because Ten is somehow radically different looking than his predecessors, but 2 had to meet 6, and that's the sartorial rape that keeps on giving, and if 2 could stomach to evolving into 6, wtf is up with Five's shilly shallying re: the question?

Date: 2007-11-19 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-los.livejournal.com
Hey, also, what's that fun Canadian store you and Erik liked? Danny and I are popping over the border, are there any, like, stores we should hit/shit you'd like?

Date: 2007-11-19 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draegonhawke.livejournal.com
Well, Tim Hortons was always fun, even if they do have Magical Disappearing Eclairs. New York Fries has some pretty rockin' poutine. And it was always fun to find out which of the dollar stores up there are actual Dollar Stores (where everything is for a looney or less) and Dollar Stores of Lies and Broken Dreams (where this isn't the case).

Date: 2007-11-19 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-los.livejournal.com
I'm so afraid of poutine...

Date: 2007-11-19 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draegonhawke.livejournal.com
Man, tell me about it. I was horrified of it. And then I tried it, and it was GLORIOUS.

Date: 2007-11-19 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draegonhawke.livejournal.com
Also, canon. Not cannon.

Date: 2007-11-19 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-los.livejournal.com
I was drunk!

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