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x_los ([personal profile] x_los) wrote2021-04-01 01:58 pm
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Some Thoughts on Cis Het Swap

Someone asked if I was going to continue my cis-het swap Wangxian series, and because I'd just seen someone else on Twitter complain about how I hadn't this week, I wrote a rather TL;DR answer, as I've been thinking about that. It's substantive enough that I thought maybe I ought to bring it back to meta cave:

I'd really like to, eventually! It's interesting because in slightly older fandoms (and still, in smaller fandoms), this form of gender swap fic has been very common for a long time. What you do with it ranges from, you know, sloppy to great. But a lot of younger tumblr-bred fandom isn't used to cis-het swap, so it can strike them as a really active, almost hostile gesture. There are a lot of comments even here re 'I hate this trope, but you did it okay'. People didn't mean to be rude, I know, but it is weird and kind of rude, given that: I wrote 20k of it, so I evidently have some time for it! [A/N: Further, who are you disclaiming to? What personal brand do you think you're protecting? I don't even know you, so?]

And to me, this particular reticence doesn't make a lot of sense considering how actively contemporary fandom engages in a lot of other gender play (ABO, forms of feminisation, etc). It can strike me as weird (frankly, as dubious) to, in that whole schema, draw the line at Actual Woman. I feel like wlw swap almost 'gets away with it' because people can't formulate an argument to address their still-extant discomfort. But given that (as I discovered after posting this) a lot of people are WILDLY ill-at-ease with cis-het swap as a concept at the moment, it does give me pause, even though I personally find this form of gender-exploration really interesting.

Because I could write 3k for me, but fandom is largely communal and about readerships. The outlined next bit of this is a substantial 40kish plot fic. So, given my time and people's interest, are the necessary hours better spent on something other than a trope people dislike, for reasons they're further constructing as political? (A claim I think is being rather too easily made, but.) A lot of people flat-out won't read it (and you know, it's anyone's right to not like a trope), and a lot of people who do will rush in to tell me they disdain it, but I am okay, and frankly I don't need that.

It's not like I'm Here to Do Numbers, with my absolute disinterest in having fandom social media and monetisation, etc. etc. But also I can't say that I don't care that this is my least popular substantial project, because no one wants to spend time telling a joke that doesn't land. 

So I may come back to this: there's an outline and 3k written on the next part. But it'll really depend on how I feel about the fandom and other projects and negotiating All That. 
peachpai: (bon clay)

[personal profile] peachpai 2021-04-01 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This new vendetta against cis swap in fandom really feels like it's coming from a place of performative woke-ness.
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[personal profile] peachpai 2021-04-02 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I find myself thinking "but didn't we have this conversation already in 2005" rather a lot lately. Not that I think we shouldn't revisit conversations, but the rehashing of the exact same arguments without any acknowledgement just feels like we're going in circles most of the time. Fan culture then continues to primarily replicate only what's popular at the moment while everything else gets kind of buried, especially in big fandoms. Social media algorithms these days certainly aren't helping.

It is a general cultural discomfort with women thing, and moreso with women's sexuality that people are bringing in to fandom, I think. I can also imagine that real life trauma related to compulsory heterosexuality might cause some queer people in fandom shy away from exploring certain tropes like cis het swap, or lash out at people that do explore it when they fail to protect themselves. This response probably isn't just limited to darker themes in fic since triggers are far more complex than fandom tends to acknowledge. (But that's a bit of a tangent, oops.)
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[personal profile] peachpai 2021-04-03 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds a bit trollish, but I'm a bad judge of these things anymore. Either way, YIKES. Sometimes the way the burden of responsibility for protecting readers' sensitivities, traumas, etc. has shifted solely to the author makes me want to not write. Like wow I got my own shit, I'm not about to try to tailor something to fit the worldview of hundreds of people I don't even know. But yeah, I agree, hyper-categorization and policing of gender expression is not getting us anywhere. It just kind of comes off as a TERF-y tactic even if that isn't the person's intention.
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[personal profile] ehyde 2021-04-04 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if people's reactions to the cis/het swap are the same or different for canon or noncanon m/m ships. I've read fic where one character was genderswapped and it got a lot of comments saying "I never considered shipping these characters until I read this" and that was probably because they were minor background characters and the fic fleshed them out a lot more, not because they were both originally male, but it would be easy to read comments like that as homophobic. And I wonder if that's what's going on with this criticism, the assumption that people are making them het because that's the only way they can ship them? But it would be very strange to apply that to wangxian.